Microsoft Office With Windows 10

Dear Computer Lady,

I recently bought an HP Notebook with of course Windows 10.

I was told by the salesperson that I could not load and use the Office Home & Student 2013 with Word. She said that the only way I can get Word is to pay 69 dollars a year.

When I got home, I decided I was going to try it anyway. The version I have is supposed to be like a lifetime purchase that I don’t have to renew. All I need it for is to use for writing purposes so I can send documents to people and they should be able to open them. I was amazed that the download worked. About an hour later, I was “offered” an upgrade by the company, and I declined.

How long do you think I might be able to use the 2013 version without upgrading to the newer version, where I would have to pay each year? Or is there a program out there that is Word compatible either for free or very little one time fee?

Thank you, Mary Lou

Dear Mary Lou,

While I am not sure how long your Office 2013 will work, it should continue to work with your Windows 10 computer as long as you stay with your current version of Windows.

I can’t say if it will work with future versions of Windows.

The salesperson is not right about your options for a new version of Word. While you can purchase a yearly subscription, you can also purchase a lifetime version of Office 2016 just like you did with the 2013. In fact, I recently began selling Office here in my shop along with the antivirus and antimalware programs that I provide.

Elizabeth

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Comments

    • JSH
    • June 14, 2016

    I knew before reading the answer that the saleslady was wrong. Until a year ago I used Office 97 on an XP computer. Then I upgraded to win 7. I could have continued using it even then. I did decide to “upgrade” to Office 2000 which I had a copy of. It works fine on win 7 and I can’t imagine that it wouldn’t work on win 10. Maybe it won’t eventually, but I find it hard to believe that it wouldn’t. Why buy a new copy of Office (for substantial money) when my old version works fine?

    • ron007
    • June 14, 2016

    For general users, Office 2013 will be supported until March 2018:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle?p1=16674&wa=wsignin1.0

    You can search that site for support dates for other MS applications.

    • ron007
    • June 23, 2016

    JSH:
    Yes you Office 2007 continues to run. But it is LONG past support by MS. Program code changes to Office are “evolutionary” rather than “revolutionary”. For the most part, MS just adds new bits and pieces. It rarely removes large chunks of code.

    Why should you care? If a hacker finds a bug in a current version of Office, there is a good chance that it will also apply to your old version. The thing is, once MS becomes aware of the hack they (in theory) will issue a security update to Office 2007 and newer to defeat the bug. Hackers troll for easy targets. They look for people who have not bothered to apply all Windows Updates and for people running unsupported versions of applications. That is 2003 and older (and very soon 2007 also!).

    Yes you can run unsecure software, you just have to be aware of the issues and play it safe. Unfortunately most people who use unsecure software are unaware of the issues.

    • JSH
    • July 19, 2016

    Somewhere between Office 2000 and now Microsoft made a “revolutionary” change in Word and changed the format of Word files. They went from .doc to .docx. Fortunately Microsoft provides an add-on that converts .docx files to .doc. I used Office 97 from 1997 to 2015. I now use Office 2000. I keep my Windows up to date (currently Win 7). I have never had any problem running old office software. It runs solely on my computer and has nothing to do with internet. Office 2000 runs perfectly on Win 7. I stand by my statement that I have no reason to spend money on a newer version when my very old one runs fine.

    • JSH
    • July 19, 2016

    BTW, I use MS Office Excel and Word. Neither accesses the internet, so I feel completely safe in using them now and for years and years to come the same as I do any other very old software (games etc) that I continue to use.

    • ron007
    • July 25, 2016

    JSH: Security for obsolete software is not simply a matter of not connecting to the internet directly from the old software, like Word or Excel. Simply connecting the computer running that old software opens you to attacks. Hackers use can internet connections to scan your computer for known vulnerabilities, like those in obsolete software.

    There are other forms of attacks from the internet. You can be sent emails with attachment, or download files from the internet that contain “macro viruses” or RTF files that have malware embedded directly in them.

    You can run antimalware and firewalls to help protect the machine with old software, but it will always be more vulnerable than you think. The best protection is an “air gap”. Do NOT connect the computer to the internet at all, ever. Even that is not 100%, but it is much more secure.

    • JSH
    • August 1, 2016

    “Hackers use can internet connections to scan your computer for known vulnerabilities, like those in obsolete software. ”

    That is remotely possible, but I have been running very old office software for nearly two decades and have had no problems whatsoever. I WILL NOT replace all the software on my computer when it runs just fine as is. With anti-virus, anti-malware, and anti-spyware software I have never had any problem.

    ron007’s second paragraph has nothing to do with this issue. That is a totally separate issue.

    Bottom line, I see nothing wrong with running old software that does not access the internet. Spending hundreds of dollars every few years to update all your applications is ridiculous IMO.

    BTW, I am a retired software engineer.

    • JSH
    • August 1, 2016

    BTW, how can you say that never connecting your computer to the internet is not 100% secure? Of course it is! Hackers can’t touch a computer unless it is connected to the internet.

    • JSH
    • August 1, 2016

    Actually hackers can’t get at old software that does not connect to the internet unless the user lets the hackers get access to his computer first. Good anti-virus software will prevent most of that. For the rest, no one should be on the internet without being completely familiar with safe practices regarding email attachments, links in emails, etc. That goes for people using old software or the most up to date software.

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